Nemeti Istvan eloadast tart a strukturalizmus, altalanos rendszerelmelet,
kibernetika, ..., kozmologia temakoreben.
Az eloadas december 15-en, kedden delutan 4-kor lesz a
Matematikai Kutato nagytermeben.
Minden erdeklodot szeretettel etc.
udv kgy
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COLOR, CONSCIOUSNESS, AND THE ISOMORPHISM CONSTRAINT
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COLOR, CONSCIOUSNESS, AND THE ISOMORPHISM CONSTRAINT
Stephen E. Palmer
Psychology Department
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-1650
palmer(a)cogsci.berkeley.edu
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~plab
ABSTRACT: The relations among consciousness, brain, behavior,
and scientific explanation are explored within the domain of
color perception. Current scientific knowledge about color
similarity, color composition, dimensional structure, unique
colors, and color categories is used to assess Locke's "inverted
spectrum argument" about the undetectability of color
transformations. A symmetry analysis of color space shows that
the literal interpretation of this argument -- reversing the
experience of a rainbow -- would not work. Three other
color-to-color transformations might, however, depending on the
relevance of certain color categories. The approach is then
generalized to examine behavioral detection of arbitrary
differences in color experiences, leading to the formulation of
a principled distinction, called the isomorphism constraint,
between what can and cannot be determined about the nature of
color experience by objective behavioral means. Finally, the
prospects for achieving a biologically based explanation of
color experience below the level of isomorphism are considered
in light of the limitations of behavioral methods.
Within-subject designs using biological interventions hold the
greatest promise for scientific progress on consciousness, but
objective knowledge of another person's experience appears
impossible. The implications of these arguments for
functionalism are discussed.
In this article I discuss the relations among mind, brain,
behavior, and science in the particular domain of color
perception. My reasons for approaching these difficult issues
from the perspective of color experience are two-fold. First,
there is long philosophical tradition of debating the nature of
internal experiences of color, dating from John Locke's (1690)
discussion of the so-called "inverted spectrum argument". This
intuitively compelling argument constitutes an important
historical backdrop for much of the article. Second, color is
perhaps the most tractable, best understood aspect of mental
life from a scientific standpoint. It demonstrates better than
any other topic how a mental phenomenon can be more fully
understood by integrating knowledge from many different
disciplines (Kay & McDaniel, 1978; Thompson, 1995; Palmer, in
press). In this article I turn once more to color for new
insights into how conscious experience can be studied and
understood scientifically.
I begin with a brief description of the inverted spectrum
problem as posed in classical philosophical terms. I then
discuss how empirical constraints on the answer can be brought
to bear in terms of the structure of human color experience as
it is currently understood scientifically. This discussion
ultimately leads to a principled distinction, called the
isomorphism constraint, between what can and what cannot be
determined about the nature of experience by objective
behavioral means. Finally, I consider the prospects for
achieving a biologically based explanation of color experience,
ending with some speculations about limitations on what science
can achieve with respect to understanding color experience and
other forms of consciousness.
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A Magyar Wittgenstein Tarsasag es az MTA Filozofiai Intezete Nyelv- es
Tudomanyfilozofiai Kutatocsoportja
1998. dec. 7-en, hetfon 14 orai kezdettel vitat rendez
Neumer Katalin
Gondolkodas, beszed, iras c. konyverol.
Vitaindito: Pleh Csaba es Redl Karoly.
A vita szinhelye: MTA Filozofiai Intezete, 1054 Budapest, Szemere u. 10.,
II. em. konyvtar
Az MFT Tudomanyfilozofiai Szekcioja és a Magyar Wittgenstein
Tarsasag meghivja Ont
Huoranszki Ferenc
Redukcionizmus
c. eloadasara.
Elkovetesi hely: BME oktatoi klub, K epulet, I em. 66.
Ido: 1998 november 26. 16:00
Az MFT Filozofiatorteneti Szakosztalya
es az ELTE BTK Szimbolikus Logika Tanszeke
meghivja Ont
Charles Parsons (Harvard University)
Husserl and the Linguistic Turn
c. eloadasara. Helyszin: ELTE BTK Filozofia Tanszekcsoport eloadoterme
Bp. V., Pesti B. u. 1. A felem. 19
Idopont: nov. 20. (pentek), du. 5.
Parsons professzor a kortars amerikai filozofia elvonalahoz tartozik;
fo terulete a matematika filozofiaja, de szamos ide tobbe vagy kevesbe
kapcsolodo filozofiatorteneti teruleten is jelentoset alkotott.
Kulonosen nevezetesek Kanttal kapcsolatos munkai. Ket alkalommal: hetfon
(16.) delben es szerdan du.4-kor orat fog tartani egy
matematikafilozofiai szeminarium kereteben, a Logika tanszeken (fenti
cim, felem. 23.); elso alkalommal a matematikai strukturalizmusrol es a
vele szembeni ellenervekrol lesz szo, masodszor a matemetikai intuiciorol
es a Vernunft szereperol a matematika episztemologiajaban. A hely
meglehetosen szuk es a szeminarium mufaja sem nagyon teszi lehetove
kulso erdeklodok alkalmi csatlakozasat (mi ezekre a temakra mar ket
honapja keszulunk), de egy-ket, a temakban jaratos, esetleg kapcsolodo
teman dolgozo kollega azert bejohet ezekre az orakra is.
==============================================================================
Andras Mate CSc, assoc. prof. -- Dept. of Symbolic Logic
Lorand Eotvos University Budapest, Faculty of Arts and Humanities
H-1364 Budapest, POB 107
Phone: (36 1) 266 9100/5328 -- TAD/Fax: (36 1) 266 41 95
e-mail:mate@isis.elte.hu
Home: H-1119 Budapest, Nandorfehervar koz 11 / Phone: (36 1) 204 0489
Mint mar koztudott nov. 16-an hetfon a Kognitiv pszichologia es
Megismerestudomany alprogramok bemutatkoznak.
A program remenyem szerint a kovetkezo lesz:
13.00 Bekoszono
13.10-13.30
Beran Eszter: A nyelv es a nemek: a diskurzus elemzes modszerenek
alkalmazasa
13.30-13.50
Polonyi Tunde Eva: Conflicts of languages - different processing
strategies of different languages
13.50-14.10
Thuma Orsolya: A nyelvfeldolgozas modularitasanak kiserleti tesztelese
magyar nyelven
14.10-14.30
Polya Tibor: Narrativ perspektiva esa kotodes mentalis reprezentacioja
14.30-14.50
Kiraly Ildiko: Hogyan emlekszunk esemenyekre?
14.50-15.10
Rago Anett: Termeszetes es mesterseges fogalmaink- a szakertoseg jelentese
15.10-15.30
Gy. Stefanik Krisztina: A naiv tudatelmeleti deficitet kompenzalo
mechanizmusok autista szemelyeknel - elozetes megfontolasok
15.30-15.50 Szunet, kave, uditok
15.50-16.10
Juhasz Levente Zsolt: A latas kognitiv neuropszichologiai vizsgalata
16.10-16.30
Aszalos Peter: Elemi osztalykepzesi mechanizmusok modellezese
rekonstrukcios halozatokkal
16.30-16.50
Antal Karoly: Kontraszterzekenyseg merese terbeli alakzatokon
16.50-17.10
Zsigmond Istvan: Metakognitiv strategiak es analogias problemamegoldas
17.10-17.30
Dankovics Natalia: Anaforikus ketertelmuseg es kauzalis semak a
megertesben
17.30-17.50
Horvath Janos Gyorgy: Az audio-vizualis interakcio alapjelensegei az
emberi informacio-feldolgozasban
17.50-18.10
Jelasity Mark: Mennyit es hogyan tanulhatunk az evoluciotol?
______________________________________
Peter Aszalos
Hungarian Academy of Sciences
Department of Spectroscopy
Tel: (1-) 3959074
email: aszalos(a)alpha0.iki.kfki.hu
Mint mar koztudott nov. 16-an hetfon a Kognitiv pszichologia es
Megismerestudomany alprogramok bemutatkoznak.
A program remenyem szerint a kovetkezo lesz:
13.00 Bekoszono
13.10-13.30
Beran Eszter: A nyelv es a nemek: a diskurzus elemzes modszerenek
alkalmazasa
13.30-13.50
Polonyi Tunde Eva: Conflicts in language - different processing strategies
of different languages
13.50-14.10
Thuma Orsolya: A nyelvfeldolgozas modularitasanak kiserleti tesztelese
magyar nyelven
14.10-14.30
Polya Tibor: Narrativ perspektiva esa kotodes mentalis reprezentacioja
14.30-14.50
Kiraly Ildiko: Hogyan emlekszunk esemenyekre?
14.50-15.10
Rago Anett: Termeszetes es mesterseges fogalmaink- a szakertoseg jelentese
15.10-15.30
Gy. Stefanik Krisztina: A naiv tudatelmeleti deficitet kompenzalo
mechanizmusok autista szemelyeknel - elozetes megfontolasok
15.30-15.50
Juhasz Levente Zsolt: A latas kognitiv neuropszichologiai vizsgalata
15.50-16.10
Aszalos Peter: Elemi osztalykepzesi mechanizmusok modellezese
rekonstrukcios halozatokkal
16.10-16.30
Antal Karoly: Kontraszterzekenyseg merese terbeli alakzatokon
16.30-16.50
Dankovics Natalia: Anaforikus ketertelmuseg es kauzalis semak a
megertesben
16.50-17.10
Horvath Janos Gyorgy: Az audio-vizualis interakcio alapjelensegei az
emberi informacio-feldolgozasban
17.10-17.30
Jelasity Mark: Mennyit es hogyan tanulhatunk az evoluciotol?
______________________________________
Peter Aszalos
Hungarian Academy of Sciences
Department of Spectroscopy
Tel: (1-) 3959074
email: aszalos(a)alpha0.iki.kfki.hu
Kedves Kollegak
November 2Oan a Magyar Szociologiai Tarsasag kongresszusan lesz
nehany kognitiv gyules is.
Helye JATE Dugonics ter 13, foepulet. Le lehet Pestrol erni a 7h1Oes
Intercityvel.
1O.OO / 12.OO Kollektiv emlekezet
Gyani Gabor Torteneti emlekezet es nemzeti identitas
Konya Aniko A szemelyes emlekek tarsas ternmeszete
Pleh Csaba A kollektiv emlekezes es a mai reprezentacio
elmeletek
15h3O /17OO Szocialis evolucio
Somlai Peter A szocialis evolucio szintjei
Csanyi Vilmos Az emberi szocialitas evoluciojanak fazisai
18.OO /2O.OO Kozvelmenykutatas es valasztasok Kerekasztal
Mindenkit szerettel latnak/latunk
Csaba Pleh
Department of Psychology
Attila Jozsef University, Szeged
Petofi sgt 30-34, 6722 Hungary
Home: Budakeszi Zichy P. u. 4 2092 Hungary, (360(23) 453932 or 933
Editor, Hungarian Review of Psychology
Deparment. of General Psychology, ELTE University
and
General and Personality Psychology Section of the
Hungarian Psychological Association
hereby announce a talk by
Prof. STEVAN HARNAD
Cognitive Sciences Centre & Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
on
FODOR'S CONTRIBUTION TO COGNITIVE SCIENCE
(On Jerry Fodor's Concepts: Where Cognitive Science Went Wrong)
Date & time: 19th of November, 1998, 16.00
Place: Bp. VI., Izabella u. 46., Room 201.
All are cordially invited!
Kedves Kollegak !
Nem fontoskodasbol ismetelem meg Hernad Istvan meghivojat, hanem
azert, hogy
MINDENKIT SZERETTEL MEGHIVUNK NOVEMBER 19-EN 18h30 /19h TAJAN
EGY SZOKASOS KIS FOGADASRA
Cim: Boross ottilia es Pleh Csaba, Budakeszi Zichy Peter utca 4.
Autoval: Budakakeszi ut, a faluban a maosik lampa utan a Telki-
Budajenoi uton jobbra, majd egy lampa utan az iskola es a temeto
kozott megint jobbra, az elso sarokig. Sorhazak kozt a masodik
egyseg.
If lost, follow the HOTEL PHOENIX sign.
Busszal: buszmegallo Kozseghaza, onnnan egy kicsit vissza Pest fele,
utana lasd fent.
Csaba Pleh
Department of Psychology
Attila Jozsef University, Szeged
Petofi sgt 30-34, 6722 Hungary
Home: Budakeszi Zichy P. u. 4 2092 Hungary, (360(23) 453932 or 933
Editor, Hungarian Review of Psychology
Deparment. of General Psychology, ELTE University
and
General and Personality Psychology Section of the
Hungarian Psychological Association
hereby announce a talk by
Prof. STEVAN HARNAD
Cognitive Sciences Centre & Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
on
FODOR'S CONTRIBUTION TO COGNITIVE SCIENCE
(On Jerry Fodor's Concepts: Where Cognitive Science Went Wrong)
Date & time: 19th of November, 1998, 16.00
Place: Bp. VI., Izabella u. 46., Room 201.
All are cordially invited!
__________________________________________________________
Miklos GYORI
Department of General Psychology,
Lorand Eotvos University (ELTE), Budapest
1064 Budapest Izabella u. 46., Hungary
tel: ++36-1 3423130 fax: ++36-1 3423109
e-mail: gyori(a)izabell.elte.hu http://www.ps.elte.hu/~gyori/
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