koglist February 1994

koglist@maillist.ttk.hu

5 participants
5 discussions

EMCSR'94 European Meeting on Cybernetics and Systems Research

by Gergely Csibra

----- Forwarded message begins here ----- From: sec(a)ai.univie.ac.at <sec(a)ai.univie.ac.at> Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:36:11 GMT Subject: EMCSR'94 European Meeting on Cybernetics and Systems Research * * * * * TWELFTH EUROPEAN MEETING * * ON * * CYBERNETICS AND SYSTEMS RESEARCH * * (EMCSR 1994) * April 5 - 8, 1994 UNIVERSITY OF VIENNA organized by the Austrian Society for Cybernetic Studies in cooperation with Dept.of Medical Cybernetics and Artificial Intelligence, Univ.of Vienna and International Federation for Systems Research Plenary lectures: ***************** MARGARET BODEN (United Kingdom): "Artificial Intelligence and Creativity" STEPHEN GROSSBERG (USA): "Neural Networks for Learning, Recognition, and Prediction" STUART A. UMPLEBY (USA): "Twenty Years of Second Order Cybernetics" 241 papers will be presented and discussed in the following symposia: ********************************************************************* GENERAL SYSTEMS METHODOLOGY G.J.Klir (USA) ADVANCES IN MATHEMATICAL SYSTEMS THEORY J.Miro (Spain), M.Peschel (Germany), F.Pichler (Austria) FUZZY SYSTEMS, APPROXIMATE REASONING AND KNOWLEDGE-BASED SYSTEMS C.Carlsson (Finland), K.-P.Adlassnig (Austria), E.P.Klement (Austria) DESIGNING AND SYSTEMS, AND THEIR EDUCATION B.Banathy (USA), W.Gasparski (Poland), G.Goldschmidt (Israel) HUMANITY, ARCHITECTURE AND CONCEPTUALIZATION G.Pask (United Kingdom), G.de Zeeuw (Netherlands) BIOCYBERNETICS AND MATHEMATICAL BIOLOGY L.M.Ricciardi (Italy) SYSTEMS AND ECOLOGY F.J.Radermacher (Germany), K.Fedra (Austria) CYBERNETICS AND INFORMATICS IN MEDICINE G.Gell (Austria), G.Porenta (Austria) CYBERNETICS OF SOCIO-ECONOMIC SYSTEMS K.Balkus (USA), O.Ladanyi (Austria) SYSTEMS, MANAGEMENT AND ORGANIZATION G.Broekstra (Netherlands), R.Hough (USA) CYBERNETICS OF COUNTRY DEVELOPMENT P.Ballonoff (USA), T.Koizumi (USA), S.A.Umpleby (USA) COMMUNICATION AND COMPUTERS A M.Tjoa (Austria) INTELLIGENT AUTONOMOUS SYSTEMS J.Rozenblit (USA), H.Praehofer (Austria) CYBERNETIC PRINCIPLES OF KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT F.Heylighen (Belgium), S.A.Umpleby (USA) CYBERNETICS, SYSTEMS AND PSYCHOTHERAPY M.Okuyama (Japan), H.Koizumi (USA) ARTIFICIAL NEURAL NETWORKS AND ADAPTIVE SYSTEMS S.Grossberg (USA), G.Dorffner (Austria) ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND COGNITIVE SCIENCE V.Marik (Czech Republic), R.Born (Austria) TUTORIALS: ********** A SYNTACTIC APPROACH TO HEURISTIC NETWORKS: LINGUISTIC GEOMETRY Prof.Boris Stilman, University of Colorado, Denver, USA FUZZY SETS AND IMPRECISE BUT RELEVANT DECISIONS Prof.Christer Carlsson, Abo Akademi University, Abo, Finland CONTEXTUAL SYSTEMS: A NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR KNOWLEDGE BASED SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT Dr.Irina V. Ezhkova, Russian Academy of Science, Moscow TWENTY YEARS OF SECOND ORDER CYBERNETICS Prof.Stuart A. Umpleby, George Washington University, Washington, D.C., USA PROCEEDINGS: ************ Trappl R.(ed.): CYBERNETICS AND SYSTEMS '94, 2 vols, 1911 pages, World Scientific Publishing, Singapore. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT: *************************************** EMCSR'94 Secretariat c/o Austrian Society for Cybernetic Studies Schottengasse 3 A-1010 Vienna Austria Phone: +43-1-53532810 Fax: +43-1-5320652 E-mail: sec(a)ai.univie.ac.at -- paolo petta +43-1-5336112(Tel) Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5320652(Fax) Schottengasse 3, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe paolo(a)ai.univie.ac.at ------ Forwarded message ends here ------

32 years, 2 months

KOGLIST: re: CogNeuro Discussion List

by benke＠sfu.ca

A kovetkezo ertesitest tovabbitom. I am forwarding the following announcment. Laborfalvi Benke Tibor Tibor Benke /benke(a)sfu.ca (^)%(#) >@> Graduate Student (MA program) >@> Department of Sociology and Anthropology >@> Simon Fraser University, >@> Burnaby, B.C., Canada. V5A 1S6 ************************start***************** >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:32:41 -0500 >Reply-To: PSYCHE Discussion Forum <PSYCHE-D%NKI.BITNET(a)uga.cc.uga.edu> >Sender: PSYCHE Discussion Forum <PSYCHE-D%NKI.BITNET(a)uga.cc.uga.edu> >From: PATRICK WILKEN <X91007(a)pitvax.xx.rmit.edu.au> >Subject: CogNeuro Discussion List >X-To: psyche-d(a)nki.bitnet >To: Multiple recipients of list PSYCHE-D <PSYCHE-D%NKI.BITNET(a)uga.cc.uga.edu> > >From: Peter G. Grossenbacher <pgg1001(a)phx.cam.ac.uk> > >> As part of the Psyche discussion list, I received your post announcing Crick's >> talk. You mentioned that it came from a cogNeuro list. >> >> As I recently completed a doctoral program which emphasized cognitive >> neuroscience, I am keen to join a discussion list in that field, and this is >> the first that I have heard of a "cogNeuro" list. >> >> Could you let me know the address to which I should post to request joining? >> Other psyche participants might also want this information. Otherwise, I will >> send a query to cogneuro(a)ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov. I am first writing to you >> because I fear that my query would just add noise to a list, and might not get >> to the list administrator. >> >> Thanks for your help! >> >> Peter G. Grossenbacher, Ph.D. >> Department of Experimental Psychology >> Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EB, ENGLAND >> email: pgg1001(a)phx.cam.ac.uk, or uk.ac.cambridge.phoenix > >This is the info. I have on the CogNeuro Mailing List. Hope >it helps. > >-Patrick > > >THE COGNEURO (COGNITIVE NEUROSCIENCE) MAILING LIST > >DATE > >This announcement is new as of 5/8/93. Please store it for reference. > >SUBJECT > >This list is an informal way to discuss phenomena at the interface of >cognitive science and neuroscience. The discussion is scientific and >academic. Topics include: > > o biological aspects of behavior; high level issues in neuroscience; > o neuropsych issues in ethology, ecology, genetics, pharmacology; > o imaging, simulation, innovative use of computers for cogneuro; > o books, papers, paradigms, research directions, new results. > o curricula, graduate programs, jobs, funding. > >Very important: > > o The list is self-moderating. Please read GUIDELINES below. > > o Please read HOW TO USE THIS LIST, below, BEFORE you subscribe or > forward the list's address to a colleague. > >GUIDELINES > >The language of the list is English. > >The list is meant to be low in volume and high in S/N ratio. > >Controversy and informal speculation are as welcome as orthodoxy and >rigor. Because cogneuro is a huge field, submissions shouldn't be >off-topic or otherwise not essentially scientific or academic. Since >the emphasis is scientific and academic, participants are expected to >be both tolerant of other participants' opinions and choice of words >and respectful in advance of their sensitivities. > >The list is initially open to anybody who is interested, but might be >closed or restricted soon to keep the quality up. Although I don't >expect ever to need to exercise it, I reserve the right to remove >anybody from the list if there are problems, especially if these >directions are not absorbed. I want to keep a spirit of free exchange >of cognitive neuroscience. > >The premise upon which the list is founded is that no editor, censor, >dictator, alpha male figure, or committee is likely to do as good a >job in this context as your desire and that of your colleagues to >MAINTAIN A REPUTATION FOR QUALITY. It is an exercise in >SELF-MODERATION, and a potential model for future scientific >collaboration on the net. It requires more from you, but I believe >that it has the potential to bear fruit that will make it well worth >while. > >I hope you join; please feel free to ask me any questions. > >HOW TO USE THIS LIST > >Would you like to avoid these common mailing list problems? > > o Sending a trivial administrative message to 500 of your > colleagues, all over the world, in an age when the computer > never forgets? > > o Being subscribed or unsubscribed unintentionally? > > o Experiencing anxiety over acknowledgements? > >Don't worry, avoiding mortification and inconvenience is EASY AS PIE. >Just follow these directions EXACTLY! A word to the wise: the >excruciating detail of this announcement is due to each of the above >mistakes actually having occurred. With luck, this will prevent them. > >Note: THIS IS NOT LISTSERV. There are many types of mailing lists, >only a few of which are Listserv. 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Do be sure that the "cogneuro" addresses >are not in the headers if you don't want your reply posted. > >To ask a METAQUESTION (a question or comment about the list), or if >you have any PROBLEMS, send mail to the ADMINISTRATOR at >cogneuro-request(a)ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov. Do not under any circumstances >inconvenience the entire list with a problem. They will remember you! >SUGGESTIONS for improving this announcement or the list are very >welcome. This announcement is intended to balance giving you concise >information with making sure that common errors don't occur. > >If YOUR MACHINE GOES DOWN for a long time, or for some other reason >mail to you bounces, I might remove you from the list. It's nothing >personal at all; it's just that I receive bounces for EVERY post to >the list, and have to correct each one manually. If you are concerned >that this might have happened, you can resubscribe without fear of >double subscription. That is because my software, for all its >shortcomings, does know who you are (by your full real name or your >address, assuming you have not changed them -- see above) and usually >won't think you're two people. If you get MULTIPLE MESSAGES, it might >be because somebody is also gatewaying cogneuro to another, perhaps >local, list that you are on. In that case, you can unsubscribe from >either of the lists. If you're not sure, just contact me. > >Whatever you do, if you have a REQUEST, contact your friendly, unpaid >administrator, me, at cogneuro-request. You must NOT mail it to the >entire list, no matter what. It will not help in any way, and your >request might be delayed. (If you are not already convinced, that >this perhaps knowing that 500 of your reviewers and grant sources will >be inconvenienced will work. It GALLS me to have to say this type of >thing, for I believe in the community and the desire of most people to >do the right thing, so I apologize. But it is NECESSARY to mention.) > >More things necessary to mention: Unless otherwise noted, SUBMISSIONS >may be FORWARDED by list members to other interested people as long as >the author and the list are attributed and quoted correctly. I >generally try to protect subscribers' privacy, but PRIVACY CANNOT BE >GUARANTEED. Any IDENTITY you use must be consistent for as long as >you are subscribed. Only subscribers may post. Any and all illegal >activity is obviously your responsibility as a poster to prevent. The >list is global. > >You will usually not receive BOUNCES from posts to the list unless >they are due to problems getting from you to ptolemy. Bounces >normally go to me; I usually fix them manually by removing the >offending addresses. If you do get a bounce, it is usually something >weird at another site. If you know how to debug it, I will appreciate >your effort, as I am not an expert in mail transport. If not, don't >worry too much about it, but if you haven't received the bounce >before, please send an explanation, the full set of headers for the >message you received, and the bounce, to "cogneuro-request" so that I >can try to debug it when I have time. (Examples of this type of >bounce are a gateway that is subscribed to the list under a user's >name, a user who has a bad forwarding address and a nonstandard >forwarding agent, etc. There is no way for any mailing list to >prevent them from happening in advance.) > >Rarely, two different people with the same full real name (like two >people named "John Q. Doe") get only one entry, so that only one is >subscribed. > >To date, there have been no bugs in the software. That does not mean >that there are not any. As I want to fix any bugs quickly, you must >send me all headers and tell me what your symptoms were. (I can't >read minds yet, so I can't tell that there is a problem unless you >tell me, at the cogneuro-request address.) > >The list ARCHIVES are maintained manually or semi-automatically by >Phil A. Hetherington <het(a)blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>. Please arrange any >archive requests with him. He is also a volunteer, so please take it >easy on him. > >Things to remember (these hold true for almost all mailing lists): > > o Sending to "cogneuro" posts to the whole list. > o Sending to "cogneuro-request" sends to me qua administrator. > o Following up is for generally interesting posts. > o Replying is for courtesy notes such as thank-yous. > o Admin notes must only be sent to "cogneuro-request". > o At your discretion, an archiving protocol such as ftp can be > useful for distributing especially large files, files that > are likely to be frequently requested in the future, or > files that are likely to be updated frequently. > o On this list, you moderate yourself. It's your reputation! > o A cliche to remember: "The list is what you make of it". > >Again: > > o Admin notes must ONLY be sent to "cogneuro-request". > o On this list, YOU moderate yourself. > >SUMMARY > > o GUIDELINES -- it's a self-moderated list. > o HOW TO USE THIS LIST -- very important information. > o SUBJECT -- cognitive neuroscience, academic & scientific. > o DATE -- date of this announcement. > >END OF COGNEURO ANNOUNCEMENT > >Hope you like it; please feel free to ask me any questions. > >Kimball Collins >AI Research Branch, NASA Ames Research Ctr, MS 269-2, Moffett Field, CA 94035 >NET: kpc(a)ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov; WORK: 415-604-1221; HOME: 415-941-3036 > >-- >kpc(a)ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov cogneuro admin How does matter become aware? >p6p8jLD(rw6L,97h@Z["'Jp"X8d@s4mtz9I>u`d[1eyo;(LBzM=s~5x;1wv0H+I6~f*YiUodZvYhtK> >Ps/m#-j[Q&%V`;lSffgvXy2TT)AB/^-;Am>ne}=:D0y~I{Co~;V(IQ]]beaKl$[@c9T[&Mw>_{ASKnm >(A random sig such as this one affirms that random speech is protected & free.) > > *****************end forwarded message*****************

32 years, 3 months

Position in Cognitive Science

by zoli＠cortex.rutgers.edu

THE UNIVERSITY OF HONG KONG Lectureship in Psychology. Applications are invited for the position of Lecturer (British system: equivalent to an Assistant Professor in N. America) in the Department of Psychology in the area of cognitive science. The filling of post is subject to the availability of funds, but it is hoped that an appointment will be made early in 1994, for a fixed term of 2 to 3 years, which would be expected to be renewed at the end of this first contract. Applicants for this post should ideally possess a Ph.D. degree and have research, teaching and practical experience in cognitive science. Teaching at the undergraduate and postgraduate levels would be required. There is currently little teaching of cognitive science at the University of Hong Kong, and the appointee would be expected to fill this gap, as well as do research in this area. It is anticipated that a new degree or postgraduate degree course in Cogntive Science will soon be offered by the University, and the Department of Psychology will take on a significant teaching role. Other departments that are likely to be involved include Computer Science, Philosophy and Education. The annual salary (non-superannuable, but attracting a 15% (taxable) terminal gratuity) is on an 11-point scale: HK$377,220 - HK$630,180 (approx. Sterling L32,800 - L54,800; US$48,500 - US$80,800 at December, 1993 exchange rates). Starting salary will depend on qualifications and experience. At current rates, salaries tax in Hong Kong will not exceed 15% of gross income. Children's education allowances in Hong Kong and abroad, leave, and medical/dental benefits are provided; housing or tenancy allowances are also provided in most cases at a charge of 7.5% of salary. Further particulars and application forms may be obtained from the Appointments Unit, Registry, The University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong (fax (852) 5592058; email APPTUNIT(a)HKUVM1.HKU.HK). Closes February 15, 1994 (extended deadline from earlier advert). Further particulars ------------------- Facilities at the University of Hong Kong are very good, with all lecturers provided with a PC connected via LANs to the Departmental servers, the University's mainframes (Vax 6420, IBM9375, IBM4361, DECSystem 5500s, SUN SPARCserver 670), and the universities' and polytechnics' DECmpp 12000 supercomputer. There is access, via the LANs, to the Internet, and to computers and networks abroad. There is external access to this network. The University of Hong Kong has expanded rapidly over the last few years, with a current student quota of 8500 undergraduates and 2500 postgraduates (of which about 1000 are research postgraduates). Resourcing and facilities for research can be excellent. The Department of Psychology has several purpose- built laboratories, for research in psychophysiology, perception, experimental psychology, and developmental psychology amongst others. The standards of the undergraduate students are high, the University being able to select only those in the top percentiles. The programmes themselves are of an international standard, and are vetted by external examiners usually from abroad, while many courses and programmes are internationally accredited. Hong Kong itself is an exciting and vibrant city, being at the heart of an area which is economically forging ahead of the rest of the world. Informal queries can be sent to Dr. John A. Spinks, Department of Psychology, at: spinks(a)hkucc.bitnet ------------------------------

32 years, 3 months

Call for Abstracts: Logic&Language 5

by Jeffrey Goldberg

PLEASE POST PLEASE POST PLEASE POST PLEASE POST SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS Fifth Symposium on Logic and Language The Fifth Symposium on Logic and Language (LL5) will be held in Hungary from September 2 to September 5 or 6 [Note: the finishing date is subject to change depending on the number of participants]. Abstracts are welcome on all subjects of natural language semantics and logics related to natural language, but abstracts specifically addressing issues of focus, contrast and presupposition are especially encouraged. Abstracts should be detailed (at least 2 pages, or 500 words) and may be sent either by E-mail to LL5(a)nytud.hu or 3 copies by post to Jeff Goldberg (Rm 119) Linguistics Research Institute PO Box 19 H-1250 Budapest Hungary Deadline for receipt of abstracts is April 15, 1994 The Logic and Language Symposia are held every second year in varying places in Hungary. We are currently exploring a new venue for the symposium, in a mansion in the mountains of north-east Hungary. Please: In order to make arrangements, we need to have some idea of how many people will be participating. If you are interested, please let us know as soon as possible, stating, as best you can at this point, whether you expect to participate. For more information concerning the symposium or to be added to our mailing list, please feel free to get in touch with us at the addresses above, or by FAX (36-1) 115-14-18. PLEASE POST this notice lor pass it on to others who may be interested. -- Jeffrey Goldberg Linguistics Research Institute of the goldberg(a)nytud.hu Hungarian Academy of Sciences FAX: (36-1) 115-1418

32 years, 3 months

Human Memory: BBS Call for Commentators

by Stevan Harnad

Below is the abstract of a forthcoming target article by: MS Humphreys, J Wiles & S Dennis on: TOWARD A THEORY OF HUMAN MEMORY: DATA STRUCTURES AND ACCESS PROCESSES This article has been accepted for publication in Behavioral and Brain Sciences (BBS), an international, interdisciplinary journal providing Open Peer Commentary on important and controversial current research in the biobehavioral and cognitive sciences. Commentators must be current BBS Associates or nominated by a current BBS Associate. To be considered as a commentator for this article, to suggest other appropriate commentators, or for information about how to become a BBS Associate, please send email to: harnad(a)clarity.princeton.edu or harnad(a)pucc.bitnet or write to: BBS, 20 Nassau Street, #240, Princeton NJ 08542 [tel: 609-921-7771] To help us put together a balanced list of commentators, please give some indication of the aspects of the topic on which you would bring your areas of expertise to bear if you were selected as a commentator. An electronic draft of the full text is available for inspection by anonymous ftp according to the instructions that follow after the abstract. ____________________________________________________________________ TOWARD A THEORY OF HUMAN MEMORY: DATA STRUCTURES AND ACCESS PROCESSES Michael S. Humphreys, Department of Psychology Janet Wiles, Departments of Psychology and Computer Science Simon Dennis, Department of Computer Science University of Queensland QLD 4072 Australia mh(a)psych.psy.uq.oz.au KEYWORDS: amnesia, binding, context, data structure, lexical decision, memory access, perceptual identification, recall, recognition, representation. ABSTRACT: A theory of the data structures and access processes of human memory is proposed and demonstrated on 10 tasks. The two starting points are Marr's (1982) ideas about the levels at which we can understand an information processing device and the standard laboratory paradigms which demonstrate the power and complexity of human memory. The theory suggests how to capture the functional characteristics of human memory (e.g., analogies, reasoning, etc.) without having to be concerned with implementational details. Ours is not a performance theory. We specify what is computed by the memory system with a multidimensional task classification which encompasses existing classifications (e.g., the distinction between implicit and explicit, data driven and conceptually driven, and simple associative (2-way bindings) and higher order tasks (3-way bindings). This provides a broad basis for new experimentation. Our formal language clarifies the binding problem in episodic memory, the role of input pathways in both episodic and semantic (lexical) memory, the importance of the input set in episodic memory, and the ubiquitous calculation of an intersection in theories of episodic and lexical access. -------------------------------------------------------------- To help you decide whether you would be an appropriate commentator for this article, an electronic draft is retrievable by anonymous ftp from princeton.edu according to the instructions below (the filename is bbs.humphreys). Please do not prepare a commentary on this draft. Just let us know, after having inspected it, what relevant expertise you feel you would bring to bear on what aspect of the article. The file is also retrievable using archie, gopher, veronica, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------- To retrieve a file by ftp from an Internet site, type either: ftp princeton.edu or ftp 128.112.128.1 When you are asked for your login, type: anonymous Enter password as queried (your password is your actual userid: yourlogin(a)yourhost.whatever.whatever - be sure to include the "@") cd /pub/harnad/BBS To show the available files, type: ls Next, retrieve the file you want with (for example): get bbs.humphreys When you have the file(s) you want, type: quit These files can also be retrieved using gopher, archie, veronica, etc. ---------- Where the above procedure is not available there are two fileservers: ftpmail(a)decwrl.dec.com and bitftp(a)pucc.bitnet that will do the transfer for you. To one or the other of them, send the following one line message: help for instructions (which will be similar to the above, but will be in the form of a series of lines in an email message that ftpmail or bitftp will then execute for you). JANET users without ftp can instead utilise the file transfer facilities at sites uk.ac.ft-relay or uk.ac.nsf.sun. Full details are available on request. -------------------------------------------------------------

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